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The “Historical” Spartacus

by Administrator on 02-24-2010 09:31 PM - last edited on 02-24-2010 09:56 PM

The “Historical” Spartacus
by Aaron Irvin, Historical Consultant, Spartacus: Blood and Sand

The basic facts are these: between 73 and June of 71 BC, what began as a group of about 70-80 escaped gladiator slaves grew into a massive army that ravaged the Italian countryside. In two years, this group of rebel slaves and freemen defeated a total of six Roman armies, three Praetors, two Consuls, and finally the Gallic legion under a Roman governor. In the end, it took the combined force of almost 12 Roman legions under three Roman commanders to bring an end to the rebellion. The “leader” of this rebellion, a Thracian gladiator, has come down through the millennia as a legend, a symbol of revolution for the oppressed and the triumph of the ultimate underdog.

Roman sources record this Thracian gladiator’s name as “Spartacus”, and it is on this point alone that our primary sources can be said to be in agreement. Plutarch states that the Thracian was from a nomadic tribe, possibly the Maedi, and had been brought to Rome with his wife, a priestess of Dionysus, and sold into slavery. Appian, on the other hand, states that while he had once served with Roman soldiers, he had become a prisoner and sold as a gladiator; it is Appian who writes the enigmatic phrase “his body was never found”, warning his readers that Spartacus may yet live to strike again. Florus presents the Thracian as a mercenary who had deserted from the Roman military and become a bandit, and then captured and sold as a gladiator. With Plutarch writing in the 1st century AD, almost 150 years after the rebellion, and Appian and Florus in the early to mid 2nd century AD, one might be struck by the fact that as more time passes, our Roman authors seem to become more and more informed on the background of this famous slave.

It is Spartacus’ status as a slave that defined how the Romans saw his origin- prior to the rebellion, no one cared who he was or where he came from. Only after his armies had shaken the Republic and threatened Rome itself was there any reason to take note. In fact, one can even call into question his “Thracian” background; his role as a Thraex in the arena was, for the Roman mind anyway, grounds enough for placing his origin in Thrace. But, for the Romans, Thrace was a backwards land, its people the prototypical barbarians- large, hairy, unwashed, uneducated, and lacking in any of the culture and civility of “polite” Roman society. Among Greek historians, a story was continually passed around that the Thracians practiced divination by throwing men onto upright spears, and divined the will of the gods by how the man landed; if he missed the spears completely, or survived the ordeal (so the story went), the Thracians believed he must have been an evil, wicked man, and clubbed him to death before grabbing another victim to throw on the spears.

How could someone from such an uncivilized and, lets face it, stupid group of people possibly have brought low six Roman armies? Well, Plutarch explains, you see, this Spartacus guy, he was really more of a “Greek” than a Thracian; he was educated, well spoken, erudite, intelligent, more like one of the good “Hellenized” Thracians than the stupid ones. Years later, Appian and Florus would likewise chime in: not only was Spartacus intelligent, but he had actually been part of the Roman army, trained to fight like a good, civilized Roman soldier, so you see, that’s why this barbarian slave was able to beat us. Early on, we can see the Roman fascination with this Thracian slave, whom they found admirable despite his status as slave, gladiator, and rebel leader.

It is possible that in all of these accounts, a kernel of the real, historical man lies somewhere dormant and unreachable. Spartacus may very well have been all of the above, a “civilized” Thracian, trained in Roman arms, full of a Roman compassion and honor and sense of duty, but such is the fate of legends that over time the man dies and only the story remains, to become what later generations wish it to be. Fundamentally, Spartacus was a slave, a man ripped from his family, his home, and his life, forced to fight at the pleasure of a foreign people, and at a certain point had enough and struck back. Perhaps he sought to unleash a terrible vengeance against those who had wronged him so; perhaps he sought to simply go home. That man has long since passed, yet ultimately Appian was correct; his body will never be found. The story and legend of Spartacus continues to walk among us and speak to us still, not of who the man was, but what he became.


 

Aaron Irvin is a current Teaching Fellow and Ph.D. candidate at UCLA.  He received a B.A. in History from Western Washington University in 2005, a M.A. from UCLA in 2007, and a C.Phil. from UCLA in 2008.  His areas of study include Romanization and internationalism in the ancient world.

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Comments
by on 02-25-2010 03:10 PM
This was a very interesting and very good read. I thank you for putting this up here. I knew of the legend, but vaguely before Spartacus: Blood and Sand came out. This opens my eyes a bit more to the legend.

I really appreciate you putting it up here.

Thank You.
by AgustusIII on 02-28-2010 07:55 AM
I am going to try this one more time. First of all I love the show, but there a couple of discrepancies i.e.. The word F--k is from the German vernacular and was not used until Centuries after this period and was never a basic in the Latin language to begin with. The idea of fellatio was a French concept that began long after the time of the slave revolt, actually it was sometime around the 15th century. For the show to run true to what is portrayed in the opening of each new episode as historically accurate you should check the language as was spoken at that period, because I really think there are more than few words and actions that were not part of the time or the Latin language at that time or any time. Again, I am not criticizing the show, only the claim regarding the accuracy of the historical content.

I understand that writers take liberties to dramatize events, making for more elaborate and moving scenes, just watch the truth thing a little bit more respectively. I am sure I am not the only individual that knows about what I have written.
by The Count on 02-28-2010 05:01 PM

I think this show is about the closest thing to going back in time and reliving that period. Sure, this or that may not be historically accurate but the BIG picture is pretty darn spot on. While i personally do not care for all the gore, those times were pretty darn gory as a human life (never mind animal rights) was not worth much.

One thing I am sure about though is that people in those times did not have beautiful set of teeth like the show's actors. If fact more people probably had half their teeth missing while the rich could afford wooden tooth implants. Would not look very photogenic though... :-)

by on 03-02-2010 12:49 AM
First off, great show- I really like watching it! = )
I realize the Historical Consultants are very busy with their schooling, but it would be wonderful if they could post a tidbit a week pertaining to the show. For example, a "Did you know?" factoid like: "Did you know that the "xyz" on the table in Batty & LuLu's house wasn't made it Rome, it had to imported from Timbuktu" or "Did you know that the wine typically used was "blah & blah" b/c the soil in the region was too rocky to grow anything else".... You get the picture! Thanks!
by Geijutsu on 03-02-2010 01:35 PM
**bleep** it who's the hot slave girl in ep 6??? keep her and her **bleep** on the show or at least reveal her name or I'm not watching this again!
by jennir on 03-03-2010 01:32 PM
Wonderful show... great charachter development... amazing story line. We are glued to our television sets.. so much so that I am taking time out of my day to read this site.

Thank you for the best show on television! We are with you all the way!

Thank you Latlka... for the laugh! :smileyhappy:
by on 03-04-2010 06:49 AM
I was wondering about the curse words back then, but who knows? Maybe the word was already created, and said back then. As for the filatio, I would not be surprised if they had that figured out back in the Adam and Eve times, lol
by The Count on 03-06-2010 12:02 PM


...cursing 200o0 years ago.... well, i cant remember my incarnation back then but i am pretty sure they cursed the same way, or very similar, to the way in the middle east. they don't use the F word at all, its much more creative...

some of the curses my middle eastern friends taught me:

may your beard smell like 10 rotten sheep
your sisters beard (whatever that means) i fart upon
may you **bleep** be eaten by a wild goat

you get the idea.... :-)

by MissMimi on 03-06-2010 08:23 PM
i love this show...i watch it twice on my dvr everytime!!! I love it..i would pay 100 right now to have the whole season in my hands...lol
by marcoscu on 03-10-2010 12:57 PM
Congratulations on a great show, truly riveting TV. I confess that I do not care for the violence (although the obvious and over the top CGI negates the effect somewhat) but sex and nudity is great even if it does detract a bit from what the very interesting plot lines that are coming through.

I was very saddened to hear of Andy Whitfield's illness. I wish him a full and speedy recovery.
by Herodotus on 03-17-2010 06:11 AM
To Augustus

Really, check your facts, first. Fellatio was hardly a French invention. There were ancient Greek poets discssing it along with Roman. There is much Greek pottery depicting it. As a matter of fact it's discussed extensively in the Kama Sutra in Sanscrit.

As for the word "**bleep**," it was of course, a German word, probably of the 15th century. Although I studied Latin, I never saw any curse word for **bleep**ing. But that doesn't mean that the lower classes didn't have one. So you can hardly expect the screenwriters to use the Latin word for "**bleep**" when no one would understand it. It's enough that they used the word LoDus repeatedly.
by Constantinova on 03-19-2010 04:16 PM
Congratulations to the casting directors for picking such excellent actors as John Hannah and Lucy Lawless to play the major roles in this series.

Without their wit, subtle interpretations of their characters' machinations, open yet ambiguous sexual attraction to each other (the scene in the bath, for example, where Lucretia wants Batiatus to have **bleep** intercourse with one of the slave girls while she herself watches), and more, these two characters would become mere caricatures rather than the flesh-and-blood people that the talented John Hannah and Lucy Lawless have turned them into.

These two fine actors alone make the show worthwhile for my husband and me. Their delivery of their lines, their facial expressions, their body language are all perfect and contribute to the show's immediacy, intimacy, and chemistry.

The "younger" actors -- all of whom are good in their own way -- have much to learn from these talented veterans, and I, for one, am delighted to be able to tune in every week and see such inspirational actors in such substantial, serious roles.

Yes, I know the show is about Spartacus, blah blah blah, the gladiators blah blah blah, it's modeled after graphic novels blah blah blah, but I wouldn't watch it if it weren't for John Hannah strutting his stuff so subtly imperiously as Batiatus and for Lucy Lawless sweeping the ludus so insecurely securely as Lucretia. Wonderful.

Finally, these two excellent, talented, tremendous actors get to show the depth of their talent. I hope they win Emmys and Golden Globes for their excellent work on this show.

Constantinova
by madria on 03-22-2010 10:29 PM
Great show , i am so happy that we finally got a face a story and such a wonderful cast that represents true people and facts of life for the time speaking ...i was & am just sick of mythology and the same hercules stories over and over again , i dont understand this producers why do they hire writers with so little appreciation for the times ..and that why i say it again Great show and for me its the best i have seen in a very long time ...Spartacus story is beautiful , heart warming and very inspiring that region and the ones nearby have some amazing stories of true human spirit and sacrifice .....thank you for this wonderful show ....
by sxeminnie on 03-30-2010 10:38 PM
I totally love this show! Starz Kudos to you for putting a Great show together. I am always anxious to see what is going to happen in the next episode.
by Jimacus on 04-04-2010 12:00 PM
RE: AgustusIII on F-word and fellatio. From a linguistic stand point Agustslll is correct regarding the F-word. However, knowing what we do about the ancient Romans don't you think it probable that their vernacular contained words of the same general intent if not verbatim denotation? Moreover, in English we have a plethora of words for all manner of sexual congress. The wanton Romans who knew virtually no sexual taboo must have had at least as many. So, if a character says "I'll F*&# your skull" I believe we can rest assured that there was some Roman phrase in use at the time to convey that exact meaning. You said: "The idea of fellatio was a French concept that began long after the time of the slave revolt, actually it was sometime around the 15th century." As for this bit of tripe, you must be joking. How could you possibly even think that oral copulation, for and by both sexes, is any younger than our curious and hedonistic species? Ever hear of the Dharma Shastra (precursor to the Karma Sutra) which was written in Sanskrit in the seventh century B.C.? As for the show, Great job! Historical artistic license aside. We fell in love with the Sopranos; we were shocked and enamored by the intrigue of ROME, and the drama of the Tudors, but I think Spartacus slays all. The only bad thing about Spartacus is that it will end one day.
by lonewolf333 on 04-09-2010 10:48 AM
In Reply to the post about the F-word and other curse words used throughout the show, this is a deliberate inaccuracy. The reason for this is that any curse said in Latin wouldn't have the same effect on audiences as said in English, because the majority of us don't understand Latin. This is the same reason why in The Count of Monte Cristo, the writing on the prison wall is in English, not French, even though the story takes place in and around France. It's such inaccuracy we accept for not knowing 10+ languages, but you can be assured that the Romans had their own curse words as well. Also, I'm completely sure the French did not invent fellatio. The Romans did all manner of sexual things, and I'm sure they would have figured that out in the early republic.
by Rsenal on 04-12-2010 12:40 PM
I was wondering if Oenomaus is one of the two brothers introduced, or if perhaps Doctore is a title and his name is actually Oenomaus? Since there were 3 leaders of the third servile war, and since both Spartacus and Crixus are there, it would seem a shame not to be completely accurate when you're so close. Other than the series having far too much sex, and more blood than is physically possible to "shoot out" at times from wounds, its a pretty excellent piece of work you've got going on here, I must say. I look forward to seeing how far you will take it into the War itself as seasons progress. Hopefully all the way to the end when Spartacus goes missing.
by daleccc on 04-13-2010 06:21 AM
I read somewhere that Roman women were very modest in dress and manner. Was this correct as all the women in this show seem over the top?
by joey1983 on 04-19-2010 12:09 AM
great show. just finished watching the season finale and i'm already thirsting for more. wish they had kept alive and enslaved batiatus, though, for some good old fashioned torture. looking forward to new twists in the story next season.
by jupiterjunkie on 04-19-2010 07:52 PM
I think we all agree that Sparticus is highly entertaining, thrilling, and one of the best shows we've had the absolute pleasure in watching, since for myself, the Soprano's. Reading the early blogs about where the word **bleep** comes from and oral sex is ridiculous. This is a tv show meant to entertain an audience and thusly create a following. If every mini series tv show or film followed history exactly we wouldn't have much to watch and be entertained by. Titanic was a great film, but we all know the love story between Kate and Leo didn't really happen. The same goes for Roots, Band of Brothers, Rome, Boys Don't Cry, Pacific, etc etc etc etc.....I consider myself fairly educated in Roman history and personally if the producers and writers just followed what is written in recorded history, we wouldn't have much to watch and every show would end after one season. Bravo to this writing team, costumes and special fx. Change nothing! This fan says, bring on the entertainment!!!! Bring on Sparticus Vengeance!!
by horsecrazy on 05-02-2010 02:36 PM
I too am a fan of the show and love history. I was concerned about the use of the "F" word but tried to over look it since I have no children in my home and since the Producers use the word "suggest" the truth of Roman history . The sitting in the area is also incorrect. Women and slaves were seated together on one side of area and men on the other. Also thumbs up actually meant for the taking of the life of the "downed" gladiator not thumbs down. But somewhere thru history it got confused. I would like it if the "F" word was taken out since it was not used till years later and you can get you point across without being so low class. Thanks for letting me vent.
by WallachianCneaz on 06-06-2010 03:09 AM
Hy everyone, I see that most of the people are really interested in the details of this story and some of you actually made a point regarding the language used and ....well....other stuff too. I wanted to point out one fact, the one regarding the "getii": I do understand that Hollywood made it`s mark when it comes to creating scenarios, and lately we can see some clichés among the historical movies. This might not be a major problem (or it may), but they just pushed the wrong button this time. I noticed that the historical documentation may be deficient from time to time (when it comes to movies), but when it turns into ignorance, it just bothers me. Depicting the getii as some Neanderthal monkies it`s not right. Just wiki the Getae and see what you get about them. (According to Herodotus, the Getae were "the noblest as well as the most just of all the Thracian tribes.") - any noble image in the movie?! No. They looked more like a nomadic tribe from the middle east, or fom the steps, or maybe neither, but definitely not what historical proofs depict them. This is my message to the directors or screenplay writers that made the movie: give some respect to the nations you mention if you have any interest in having a respectful work, then do it right!
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Cast
SPARTACUS
played by Andy Whitfield
LUCRETIA
played by Lucy Lawless
BATIATUS
played by John Hannah
DOCTORE
played by Peter Mensah
CRIXUS
played by Manu Bennett
ILIYTHIA
played by Viva Bianca
GLABER
played by Craig Parker
VARRO
played by Jai Courtney
SURA
played by Erin Cummings
ASHUR
played by Nick E Tarabay
BARCA
played by Antonio Te Maioho
NAEVIA
played by Lesley-Ann Brandt